Recording pilots before the fall. Don't Worry, Pull: What the Boeing Pilots Thought Seconds Before the Crash. "Lost spatial position"
March 6, 2019- At the disposal of the media was a recording of the negotiations of the An-148 pilots of the Saratov Airlines airline a few seconds before the crash /
The RBC publication received a recording of the conversations of the An-148 pilots of Saratov Airlines a few seconds before. The plane crashed in the suburbs on February 11, with 71 people on board. The authenticity of the transcript was confirmed by a source in the Federal Air Transport Agency, as well as a source in the Interstate Aviation Committee (IAC). The representative of Rosaviatsia declined to comment. The IAC reported that they did not comment on the progress of the investigation.
Aircraft commander (PIC): Up! In-o-from.
Co-Pilot (VP): Now, now.
FAC: And you look...
VP: In general, some kind of garbage!
FAC: No, well, as I understand it, you wanted it ... And you, on the contrary, down.
VP: Okay, okay, then you will talk. I mean everything else. Yes, we control everything!
FAC: Everything, everything is fine.
VP: That's it, the speed has returned to normal.
VP: Op-op-op… 390!
FAC: Down to somewhere?! Where are you down? Why down?! Where?!
AUTOINFORMER: Compare speed, compare speed.
VP: Yes, because what is good ******, 200 speed, *****!
FAC: Height! Height! Height!
FAC: Up!
AUTOINFORMER: Terrain ahead! Terrain ahead! PULL UP! Terrain ahead!
FAC: Everything, ******!
The Commission of the Interstate Aviation Committee (IAC) in February deciphered the data of one of the "black boxes" of the crashed An-148, RBC previously reported. The committee noted that the testimony of the flight recorder suggests that icing of the total pressure receivers (PPD) led to the crash. As a result of the problem, the speed readings of the aircraft were distorted.
An emergency situation developed on board the An-148, the 78.ru portal reported. In particular, speed sensors showed different values. The material claims that this happened due to an error: the co-pilot did not turn on the heating of the sensors. Then, according to 78.ru, the pilot panicked and took the plane down instead of trying to gain altitude.
An-148 commander Valery Gubanov and co-pilot Sergei Gambaryan turned on the autopilot at an altitude of 130–150 m, RBC previously reported. At an altitude of 550 m, flap cleaning was completed. 2 minutes 30 seconds after takeoff, a "special situation" began to develop in the plane. All systems of the liner recorded discrepancies in the speed readings from two air parameters modules - the main and the backup. According to experts, the An-148 was at an altitude of about 1.3 thousand meters and flew at a speed of 465–470 km/h.
Then the discrepancies in the data amounted to about 30 km/h. Then the plane was already at an altitude of about 2 thousand meters. The crew turned off the autopilot, and the entire further flight took place in manual mode.
The aircraft was transferred to an intensive descent with pitch angles for a dive of 30–35 degrees. At the time of the collision with the ground, the pitch angle was about 30 degrees, and 4-5 seconds before the collision, the aircraft began to develop a right roll, which reached 25 degrees, IAC specialists commented on the situation.
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On a pressing topic, I decided to collect a selection of black box telemetry superimposed on 3D animation (analogues of flightradar).Thanks for that MAC. For the first time, about 5 years ago, I saw a video at number 1, a movie I will tell you, very action-packed. You are especially imbued when you realize that they are talking in the video, people who see their death take a chill.
All the cases below were the fault of the crew. Yes, it is not customary for us to find fault with pilots, and indeed, it has developed in Rus' not to speak badly about the dead. For me, this is irrelevant, because. all the same, you need to know the truth, who is to blame for hundreds of deaths of people.
As soon as civil aviation appeared in Russia, the task was set that this service sector should be "elite", in all respects, from personnel to equipment. In Soviet times, it was an honor to be a pilot, probably only cosmonauts are higher. The uniform of the GA pilot caused pride and envy. Staff training was at a very high level. To become a SWR (crew commander), one had to go through fire and water ... all the subtleties of each position: flight engineer, navigator, radio operator, etc.
Know your board by heart, starting where which wiring goes, ending with where to heat food. These skills are regularly tested by taking exams. Not to mention the fact that you need to have horse health. And about criminal responsibility and responsibility in general - I am silent.
Based on the foregoing, we can safely say that BEFORE pilots were "air aces" or, more simply, specialists of the highest category.
We return to our age. What level of crews is currently, can only be judged by communication in telemetry.
Mat-remat, they get confused in terms, somewhere they don’t even know stupid materiel. They drink alcohol, the violations are such that for this you can simply put them in jail for 20 years.
Regarding drinking alcohol:
I know firsthand, there are close acquaintances, one of which is KSV, with whom he crossed paths more than once, drinking alcohol, moreover, very often on the eve of his departure. And the fact that they ferment in other countries before the flight is generally in the order of things.
The crew passes the medical examination only here - in Russia! And when, for example, they are in Turkey, the Turks no longer care whether they are drunk or not, they need to release the plane in any way! In general, resident crews are checked for show! How can you not take advantage of the position and not thump.
In general, the life of crews, including flight attendants, is very riotous, of course, not all of them without exception, but many!
In general, let's start watching:
1) He put his jerk at the helm. You know, it's just bullshit. Moreover, as you can see, this is 94 years old, there is still sooo little skill in managing foreign courts. The result is tragedy.
2) Crew errors, in general, the Tu-154 aircraft is very difficult to master and some actions could cause disastrous consequences.
3) Again Tu-shka, and again mistakes, and the risk of the SWR, if he had acted according to the instructions, would have listened to the dispatchers, perhaps everything would have worked out. Again, checkmate, no clear instructions, panic - which is unacceptable for SWR.
4) A muddy story, but judging by the telemetry, the SWR was drunk, as apparently the rest of the crew, the result - Troshev and a bunch of people were drunk.
5) There is generally chaos here, they planted young animals who did not really have a raid and practice.
"Domodedovo. Good afternoon. Pick up the train, ”the dispatcher says on the first recording. At the end of the negotiations, the captain of the liner receives the latest data and says goodbye. “I am climbing flight level 130 134 0. Goodbye!” says the pilot. These were his last words, they write "Dni.ru".
In the future, controllers contact the crew of Flight 703 and do not receive a response.
“Saratov-703, Moscow is calling and calling you,” said one of the airport employees.
The moment of the plane crash was also caught on surveillance cameras.
Recall that the An-148 passenger plane of Saratov Airlines, which was flying from Moscow to Orsk on February 11, disappeared from the radar screens immediately after takeoff from Domodedovo Airport. According to preliminary data, he took off at 14:24 Moscow time (07:24 New York time), and two minutes later he fell off the radar.
Who flew on the tragic flight
More than 60 passengers were residents of the Orenburg region, four crew members were residents of the Saratov region. The technicians who examined the crashed An-148 aircraft of Saratov Airlines were on board at the time of the crash, RIA Novosti was told in the Saratov transport prosecutor's office. Among the dead were three children. The eldest, according to preliminary data, was 17 years old, the second - 13, the youngest - 5, said a representative of the government of the Orenburg region.
A transcript of the radio exchange of the Boeing 737-800 pilots with the control tower before the go-around appeared on the network. It was translated and published by the International Consultative and Analytical Agency. Authenticity has not been proven, but not refuted. We have compared the recording with pieces of negotiations already published on the Internet and are inclined to believe that it is real. Both options - Russian and English (original) we present to you. Recall that the tragedy occurred on the night of March 19 during the second attempt of a FlyDubai flight to land at the airport of Rostov-on-Don with a wind speed of 14 m/s to 22 m/s. All 62 people on board were killed.
The first attempt was aborted at 01:41 at night and the plane went around. Up to this point, this record continues.
The last negotiations of the pilots of the fallen Boeing with the controllers of the Rostov airport.
Negotiations on the rules of international flights are in English. Both sides perfectly understand each other, there is no language barrier. Judging by the calm tone, the usual routine work is going on. Yes, the mess with the weather is recognized, but no one considers the situation a problem. The only thing is that the pilots are a little worried about the wind. However, the commander of the ship is confident in himself, his tone is peppy, he even tries to joke. And no one even admits the thought that a terrible catastrophe may soon occur ...
Obviously there is a second part of the part of the negotiations, which has not yet been published - this is a recording of the radio traffic during the landing approach for the second time. She can shed tragedy on the riddle. And we keep looking for it. If you have access to this post, please email
Transcript of the conversations between the Boeing-737-800 crew and Rostov dispatchers (translation)
Pilot: - Okay, thank you very much, uh, Sky Dubai 981... Tower, Sky Dubai 981.
Dispatcher 1: - Sky Dubai 981, Rostov Vyshka.
Pilot: - Just calling you (...) uh, is there any improvement in the weather?
Controller 1: - Dubai Sky 981, now the wind is 230 degrees, ten degree gusts up to fourteen meters per second, visibility is 5 thousand ... , correction, six thousand meters and heavy rain.
Pilot: Okay, thanks a lot, are there any wind shear warnings?
Dispatcher 1: - Sky Dubai 981, no.
Pilot: Okay, thanks. When you look out the window, sir, it looks much better than before.
Controller 1: – Sky Dubai 981, uh, moderate (…)
Dispatcher 2: - Sky Dubai 981, listen to information Bravo.
Pilot: Thank you.
Pilot: - Uh, Tower, Sky Dubai, uh, 981.
Dispatcher 3: - Sky Dubai 981, Rostov Vyshka.
Pilot: How is the weather, sir, better?
Dispatcher 3: Sky Dubai 981, uh, 00:20 weather. Visibility five, uh, kilometers, cloud base 630 meters, surface wind 230 oeh, degrees, thirteen, gusts of eighteen meters per second, uh, light showers, uh haze, on landing straight uh, severe turbulence and moderate wind shear.
Pilot: Okay, thank you very much.
Dispatcher 2: - Sky Dubai 981.
Pilot: - At the reception, Sky Dubai 981.
Controller 2: - Sky Dubai 981, at 22 minutes wind 230 degrees, 14 meters per second, gusts 18 meters per second ... twenty degrees, visibility 6 kilometers, scattered 480 ... 630 meters, the meteorological service did not report wind shear on the strip.
Pilot: - I accepted everything, and Sky Dubai 981, I ask you to descend for entry, Sky Dubai 981.
Manager 2: - ... 310.
Pilot: - 310, Sky Dubai 981.
Dispatcher 2: - Sky Dubai 981, work with Rostov Circle 121,…
Pilot: - Rostov Krug, hello again, Sky Dubai 981, descending flight level six, six, flight level seven, seventy, 070, sorry, and uh, heading 310.
Controller 3: - Sky Dubai 981, Rostov Krug, heading 310 airfield pressure, 988, descend to a relative altitude of 600 meters.
Navigation maps for landing at the airport of Rostov-on-Don Photo: International Consultative and Analytical Agency Flight Safety
Pilot: – Descend, relative altitude 600, uh, 900 meters, I confirm. Sky Dubai 981?
Controller 3: - Sky, uh, Sky Dubai 981, descend to a relative altitude of 600 meters.
Pilot: - 600 meters. I am descending 600 meters, the pressure reduced to sea level, confirm - 998?
Dispatcher 3: - Sky Dubai 981, I confirm.
Pilot: - Pressure reduced to sea level, 998, and descending, 998 and pressure reduced to sea level ... descending 600 meters, Sky Dubai 981.
Manager 3: - Sky Dubai 981, heading 300 to the left.
Pilot: - Follow course 300, Sky Dubai ... 81.
Manager 3: - Sky Dubai 981, heading 290 to the left.
Pilot: - Left, heading 290, Sky Dubai ...
Controller 3: Dubai Sky 981, HUD approach to RWY 22 cleared, and report localizer capture.
Pilot: - Runway 22, I will report the localizer, and for your information, in case of go-around, we will climb ... climb, we will climb flight level 80, 80, Sky Dubai 981.
Dispatcher 3: - 981, I understand you.
Pilot: - ... inform, please.
Controller 3: - … Dubai 981, 230 degrees, 12, gusts of 19 meters.
Pilot: - Received, captured the runway localizer Pilot: 22, I'm Sky Dubai 981.
Dispatcher 3: - … Dubai 981, work at Tower 119.7.
Pilot: - Tower 1197, Sky Dubai 981.
Pilot: - Rostov Vyshka, hello again, Sky Dubai 981, captured the runway 22 localizer.
Dispatcher 1: - Sky Dubai 981, Rostov Vyshka, uh, good evening again. Surface wind 230 degrees, 12, uh, gusts 1…
Pilot: - ... 22, Sky Dubai 981.
Navigation maps for landing at the airport of Rostov-on-Don Photo: International Consultative and Analytical Agency Flight Safety
Controller 1: – 981, airfield pressure 988 hectopascals; pressure reduced to sea level - 998 hectopascals.
Pilot: - 998 hectopascals, Sky Dubai 981.
Controller 1: - Sky Dubai 981, visibility 3500 meters in 39 minutes, airfield pressure 987 hectopascals, pressure ... 997 hectopascals.
Pilot: - 987, accepted, Sky Dubai 981 ...
Pilot: - I'm leaving for the second circle, Sky Dubai 981.
Dispatcher 1: - Sky Dubai 981, work with Rostov Krug ... comma 2.
Pilot: - 1212, bye bye.
Boeing plane crash in Rostov-on-Don. Detail view of the flight.
Transcript of the conversations between the Boeing-737-800 crew and Rostov dispatchers (original English version)
P – Okay, thank you very much er Sky Dubai nine eight one... Tower, Sky Dubai nine eight one.
C1 - Sky Dubai niner eight one, Rostov Tower.
P – I just calling you (…) er you have any improvement on the weather?
C1 – Sky Dubai niner eight one, now wind two three zero degrees one zero, gusts one four … per second, cloud base six three zero meters, visibility … thousand, er correction, six thousand meters and shower rain.
P - Okay thank you very much, any wind shear warning?
C1 - ...bai er niner eight one, negative.
P - Okay, thank you, and when you look out of the window sir it looks better than before.
C1 – Sky Dubai niner eight one, er, moderate (…)
C2 - Sky Dubai niner eight one, monitor information Bravo.
P - Er Tower, Sky Dubai er nine eight one.
C3 - Sky Dubai nine eight one, Rostov Tower.
P - How is the weather sir, is it better?
C3 – Sky Dubai nine eight one, er weather at zero zero two zero ..bility five errr kilometers, er ceiling six three zero meters, surf… wind two three zero er degrees one three, maximum one eight meters …cond er light shower rain , er mist, on final er severe turbulence and moderate wind shear.
P - Okay, thank you very much.
C2 - Sky Dubai niner eight one.
P - Go ahead for Sky Dubai niner eight one.
С2 – Sky Dubai niner eight one, at two two wind two three zero degrees, one four meters per second, maximum one eight meters per second … zero degrees, visibility six kilometers, scattered four eight zero … six three zero meters, meteorological office not reported about wind shear on the runway.
P - All copied and Sky Dubai niner eight one, request descent for our approach, Sky Dubai niner eight one.
C2 - … threeonezero.
P - three one zero, Sky Dubai niner eight one.
C2 – Sky Dubai niner eight one, contact Rostov Radar one two one deci…
P – Rostov Radar, hello again, Sky Dubai niner eight one, descending flight level six six, flight level seven, seven zero, zero seven zero, sorry, and er heading three one zero.
C3 – Sky Dubai niner eight one, Rostov Radar, heading three one zero by QFE er niner eight eight descend to height six hundred meters.
P – Descend height six hundred, er nine hundred meters, conf… Sky Dubai niner eight one?
C3 – Sky er Sky Dubai niner eight… descend to height six hundred meters.
P – Six hundred meters, descending six hundred meters, QNH confirm ninerniner eight? (…)
C3 - Sky Dubai niner eight one, affirm.
P – QNH ninerniner eight and descending, ninerniner eight and the QNH… descending six hundred meters, Sky Dubai niner eight one.
C3 - Dubai niner eight one, turn left, heading three zero zero.
P – Fly heading three zero zero, Sky Dubai … eight one.
C3 - Sky Dubai niner eight one, turn left, heading two niner zero.
P - Left, heading two niner zero, Sky Dubai…
C3 – Niner eight one, cleared ILS approach runway two two and report established localizer.
P – Runway two two, I will report on the localizer, and for your information, in case of going around we are going to go… climb, er we are going to climb to flight level eight zero, eight zero, Sky Dubai niner eight one.
C3 - Niner eight one, roger.
P-…checkplease.
C3 - … Dubai niner eight one, two three zero degrees, one two, gusts one eight meters.
P - That's copied, established on the localizer runway two two, it's Sky Dubai niner eight one.
C3 - … Dubai niner eight one, contact Tower one one niner decimal seven.
P - Tower one one niner seven, Sky Dubai nine eight one.
P – Rostov Tower, hello again, Sky Dubai niner eight one, established on the localizer runway … two.
C1 - Sky Dubai nine eight one, Rostov Tower, er good evening again. Surface wind two three zero degrees one two, er maximum one…
P - ... two two, Sky Dubai niner eight one.
C1 – niner eight one, QFE niner eight eight, hectopascals, QNH ninerniner eight hectopascals.
P - Ninerniner eight hectopascals, Sky Dubai niner eight one.
C1 – Sky Dubai niner eight one at three niner visibility three thousand five hundred meters, QFE niner eight seven er hectopascals, Q… ninerniner seven hectopascals.
P - Niner eight seven, copied, Sky Dubai niner eight one.
P - Going around, Sky Dubai niner eight one...
C1 – Sky Dubai niner eight one, contact Rostov Radar … decimal two.
P - One two one two, bye-bye.
Footage of the fall of the Boeing in Rostov-on-Don. All on board were killed. A passenger Boeing crashed near Rostov-on-Don. This was reported by a source in the emergency services of the region. There were 55 people on board.
Our condolences to the families and friends of the victims.
The publications appeared on the website of the 78 TV channel and on the Mash telegram channel, while RBC claims that the Federal Air Transport Agency and the IAC confirmed the authenticity of the data
At the crash site of the An-148 aircraft in the Moscow region. Photo: Natalia Dmitrak/TASS
Updated at 16:10
A transcript of the conversation of the pilots of the An-148 crashed in the Moscow region has been published. The negotiations were published on the website of the 78 TV channel, as well as in the telegram channel Mash.
Back in February, the media reported that the pilots were angrily arguing among themselves before hitting the ground. The decoding of the voice recorder data confirms this. The fact that this is the original text, in an interview with RBC, was told by sources in the Federal Air Transport Agency and in the Interstate Aviation Committee (IAC).
Here is a fragment of the conversation between the aircraft commander (PIC) and the co-pilot (VP):
FAC: Up! Here.
VP: Now, now.
FAC: Are you down..
VP: In general, some kind of garbage!
FAC: No, well, as I understand it, you wanted it... And you, on the contrary, down.
VP: We'll talk later. Yes, we control everything!
FAC: Everything, everything is fine.
VP: That's it, the speed has returned to normal.
VP: Op-op-op! 390!
FAC: Down to somewhere?! Where are you down? Why down?! Where?!
ALARMS: Speed compare, speed compare.
VP: Yes, because what is good ***, 200 speed, ***!
FAC: Height! Height! Height!
FAC: Up!
ALARM: Terrain ahead! Pull up! Terrain ahead!
FAC: Everything, ***.
What can be understood from this transcript? Yury Sytnik, member of the presidential commission for the development of general aviation, honored pilot of Russia, former flight director of Vnukovo Airlines, comments:
Yuri Sytnik member of the presidential commission for the development of general aviation, honored pilot of Russia, former flight director of Vnukovo Airlines“You can see from this record: the co-pilot was the dominant pilot. His name is Sergey Gambaryan. He is quite an old man, he has 812 flight hours on this type [vessel]. And why did it happen? Because the commander had just entered, he flew for the first month as the commander of the ship. He has only 58 flying hours on his own. It is clear what it is. For a young commander who does not yet have experience in piloting an aircraft from the left seat and has little commanding skills, they put a co-pilot who knows the aircraft very well, can be a leader in the crew in order to help him adapt to a new position. There is such an unspoken rule, it also existed in the Soviet Union, and in many other companies in the world: an experienced co-pilot is assigned to a young commander. But here I cannot say that he was experienced. By the actions they did in the cockpit, I can say that there was confusion, they lost the spatial position of the aircraft, they did not control it using electrical devices. The fact that they had no piloting experience says that they just broke away and retracted the landing gear, the flaps had not yet been fully retracted, and they had already turned on the autopilot and continued to further control the aircraft up to an altitude of 2000 [meters] on autopilot. Then, when the alarm started [demanding] to check the speed reading, they realized that there was a discrepancy between the left and right backup devices in terms of speed, and turned off the autopilot. It was the right move. But they could not keep the plane in level flight or with a small set. I didn’t have enough experience, so a tragedy happened.”
As the 78 TV channel notes, in July last year, the commission of the Federal Air Transport Agency conducted an unscheduled inspection of Saratov Airlines. As a result, the agency came to the following conclusion: the operator is not able to safely carry out commercial air transportation.
Thus, according to these data, 22 employees, including pilots, aircraft commanders and flight engineers, had expired flight certificates. Other violations were also found: in particular, the change of the pilot cannot last more than 12 hours, but for airline employees they reached 22 hours.
However, Saratov Airlines has already refuted information about allegedly expired certificates from the flight crew. The company also reported that they do not yet have an official extract from the negotiations in the An-148 cockpit.
There are indeed questions about the actions of the crew members of the crashed liner. Former aircraft commander, flight safety specialist Alexander Romanov comments:
Alexander Romanovformer aircraft commander, flight safety specialist“I cannot now judge the state of the crew in which they were. It will be necessary to understand whether they had a good rest, in what condition they are. The tension must be very serious. If they were tired, then in this case they could miss very important information. According to the information that I heard, in fact, they fell out of counter-control, that is, they could not control everything in the complex. All the instruments - they saw some kind of speed, and they paid attention to it so dominantly, but in fact it was necessary to consider all this, as it should be, because these procedures are memorized from the pilots - for climb [altitude], movement. In this case, it will be possible to determine with great certainty what is happening with the aircraft. If they were just trying to descend thoughtlessly, then that's probably what I'm talking about. People did not understand what was happening, and just tried to perform some chaotic actions. That is, there was no analysis on other instruments. I don’t want to draw conclusions, especially to stigmatize those who have already passed away, but the idea is this: there was unprofessionalism, unpreparedness, and people simply could not perform elementary cadet procedures, as I call them.
An-148 of Saratov Airlines, flying from Moscow to Orsk, crashed in the Moscow region in February. As a result of the crash, 71 people died: 65 passengers and six crew members.