Facts, fakes and the silence of officers. There were no living passengers in the downed Boeing MH17 over the Donbass on July 17, the crash of the Boeing
Image copyright Getty Images Image caption According to Dutch investigators, a Buk missile exploded to the left of the Boeing cockpit.
More than two years have passed since the crash of the Malaysian Boeing in the sky over Ukraine. During this time, the Russian media have repeatedly questioned the results of an official investigation into the causes of the tragedy that claimed the lives of 298 people. The BBC monitoring service followed how the versions of the catastrophe changed in the interpretation of the pro-Kremlin media.
Spanish dispatcher
July 17, 2014 at 19:00 Moscow time news channel LifeNews informed about "a new victory for the Donetsk militia", who allegedly managed to knock out another An-26 transport aircraft of the Ukrainian Air Force. This time - near the city of Torez.
"It all happened at about five o'clock in the evening Moscow time. An-26 flew over the city, suddenly a rocket crashed into it, an explosion was heard, the plane began to fall," the presenter noted, commenting on an amateur video from the scene. The news was immediately picked up by many news sites and the Russia 24 TV channel.
However, less than an hour later, it turned out that the footage shown on Russian TV channels was not an An-26 at all, but a Malaysian Boeing flying to Kuala Lumpur from Amsterdam.
In the first hours after the confirmation of the information about the downed passenger liner in the sky over Ukraine, the Russian media rejected the possibility of Donetsk separatists being involved in the crash.
"Specialists assure that it is impossible to shoot down the liner with the means at the disposal of the rebels," the correspondent of the Vremya program on Channel One reported.
"The plane crashed near the village of Grabovo, which is not far from the village of Snezhnoye, which was bombed the day before yesterday, the Ukrainian Air Force intensively bombed," the journalist of the Rossiya TV channel noted.
In parallel with this, alternative theories, including conspiracy theories, began to actively spread in the media. Late on the evening of July 17, the Russian-language website of the RT television channel published a tweet from a “Spanish dispatcher” in Kyiv that Ukrainian military aircraft had been seen near him a few minutes before the Boeing crash.
The message was soon picked up by the Rossiya-24 TV channel, as well as a number of online publications. Soon the Twitter account of the "dispatcher" was recognized as a fake and blocked.
Image copyright AFP Image caption In the Russian media, there was even a version that the target was not the Malaysian Boeing, but the plane of the Russian presidentPutin's plane
Another version, widely circulated in the Russian media on the evening of the same day, was the theory that the likely target of those who shot down the Boeing was probably the aircraft number one of the Russian president, returning from a Latin American tour.
"The contours of the aircraft are generally similar, the linear dimensions are also very similar, and as for the coloring, it is almost identical at a fairly distant distance," Interfax quoted a source in the Federal Air Transport Agency as saying.
The next day, as allegations against the Kremlin made headlines around the world, Russian state television channels continued to blame Ukraine.
"Formally, the Malaysian liner was shot down in peaceful skies. Despite the fact that the Ukrainian authorities declared the space over the southeast to be no-fly as early as July 8, transit echelons continued to work," the Vesti correspondent noted.
At the same time, a new conspiracy theory appeared on the Internet: the Moskovsky Komsomolets newspaper reported, citing "eyewitnesses" and one of the then separatist leaders Igor Strelkov, that perhaps some Boeing passengers were dead before the crash.
Nevertheless, a few days later, this version, as well as rumors about an attempt to shoot down "aircraft number one," faded into the background, giving way to official statements by the Russian Defense Ministry.
Disappearing "Buk"
On July 20, US Secretary of State John Kerry, speaking on CNN, accused Russia of supplying large quantities of weapons to separatists in eastern Ukraine.
On July 21, Russian state television channels said that, according to Russian military data, a group of Ukrainian Buk anti-aircraft systems appeared in the Donetsk region on the eve of the tragedy and disappeared shortly after.
"In addition, at the time of the crash, there was another object on the same echelon with the liner - the Ukrainian Su-25," the Vesti host noted, referring to data from the Ministry of Defense.
At the end of May 2015, the international independent group Bellingcat stated that the images of the Ukrainian Buk complex, allegedly recording its movement on July 14 and 17, 2014, are fake.
On July 25, 2014, the version about the Ukrainian Buk was again heard from TV screens. This time, the NTV channel, referring to the opinion of an expert, stated that the Boeing-777 could have been shot down during the exercises of the Ukrainian air defense forces.
On September 9, the Dutch security service released a preliminary report on the causes of the downing of flight MH17. His main conclusion - "Boeing" fell apart in the air as a result of external influences.
On the same day, a correspondent for the Rossiya TV channel criticized the opinion of experts, again recalling that the Ukrainian military supposedly had Buks at their disposal. "This photo shows a missile system with a turned launcher. On July 17, it suddenly disappeared somewhere," he said.
"Specialists are sure that the experts missed the time when a full-fledged and objective investigation could be carried out. The Ukrainian side seemed to deliberately do everything possible so that it was no longer possible to find out the real cause of the disaster," the correspondent concluded.
Image copyright AFP Image caption Russian authorities have consistently denied that the Malaysian Boeing could have been shot down by a Russian Buk.sensational shot
Nevertheless, in November of the same year, the version about the Ukrainian "Buk" was suddenly replaced by a new one - about an air-to-air missile.
The host of the Odnako program, Mikhail Leontiev, said that "Channel One had at its disposal a sensational photograph, allegedly taken by a foreign spy satellite in the last seconds of the flight of a Malaysian Boeing over Ukraine." In the photograph, the presenter noted, "the launch of a missile from under the left wing" of the MiG-29 fighter "is clearly visible at the cockpit."
"In short, there was most likely no Buk," he concluded.
The release of the program "However" went on air on Channel One on November 14 - a few days before the G20 summit in Australia. According to Leontiev himself, "on the eve of the most important meeting of world leaders ... the topic of investigating the death of passengers on that flight is more than relevant," and the sensational shot "speaks in favor of the version that was almost never heard in the West."
In the evening of the same day, a similar story with "photo evidence" of the destruction of the aircraft by a fighter appeared on the air of the Rossiya TV channel. On the same day, popular Russian photoblogger Ilya Varlamov discovered signs of satellite footage being faked.
secret witness
After the public exposure of the fake photo, the version of the fighter again began to be actively discussed in the Russian media at the end of 2014.
This time the reason was the publication in the Komsomolskaya Pravda newspaper of 22 December. According to the publication, journalists "found a witness who claims that the Malaysian Boeing was shot down by a Ukrainian Su-25 attack aircraft.
"A secret witness appeared in the case of the Malaysian Boeing, whose testimony removes all charges from the militia and Russia," the authors of the article concluded. Soon this story was picked up by online publications, major TV channels and even the Investigative Committee of Russia. However, the story didn't end there.
In early June 2015, the "secret witness" reappeared in the headlines of the state media. "The investigation into the case of the crash of the Boeing in the Donetsk region is moving forward noticeably. And today the name of the main witness was named in the Investigative Committee of Russia," Channel One reported on June 3. According to journalists, it turned out to be a former Ukrainian soldier Evgeny Agapov.
In parallel, Russian media reported on the results of an investigation conducted by the developer of the Buk anti-aircraft systems, the Almaz-Antey concern. According to the company's experts, the Malaysian Boeing was shot down over the Donbas by a 9M38M1 missile fired from the Buk-M1 complex. At the same time, representatives of the concern at a press conference did not rule out that the missile could have been fired by Ukrainian air defense.
In response, Bellingcat founder Eliot Higgins stated that Almaz-Antey used incorrect and edited images in his report on the MH17 crash.
special operation
According to this version, on July 17, 2014, a bomb exploded on board the Boeing. "I'm practically sure that the plane was destroyed from the inside, and it was a special operation," Sergey Sokolov, an expert at the Analytics and Security federal information center, said on the TV channel at the time.
Outdated "Buk"
On October 13, the Dutch Security Council published a final report on the investigation into the causes of the crash, which stated that the airliner was shot down by a missile launched from a Russian-made Buk.
On July 17, 2014, five years ago, a plane crash occurred in the east of the Donetsk region. The Boeing 777-200ER of the Malaysian airline Malaysia Airlines followed the route "Amsterdam - Kuala Lumpur". 2 hours and 49 minutes after takeoff, the plane was shot down by a missile fired from the Buk air defense system. The crash killed all 298 people on board: 283 passengers and 15 crew members. It has not yet been established who shot down the Malaysian airliner.
Aircraft, crew and passengers
The Boeing 777-200ER was produced at the Boeing plant in Everett (Washington, USA) in 1997. On July 29 of the same year, it was transferred to the Malaysian airline Malaysia Airlines. Therefore, the crew of the aircraft was represented by citizens of Malaysia.By the time of the disaster, the plane had been flying for seventeen years, made 11,434 take-off and landing cycles, and had flown 75,322 hours. The liner was last tested on July 11, 2014, but it did not reveal any problems in the operation of the aircraft.
On 16 July 2014, the aircraft performed daily flight MH16 Kuala Lumpur - Amsterdam, arriving at Amsterdam Airport Schiphol at 04:23. At 10:14 the aircraft began the return flight MH17 Amsterdam - Kuala Lumpur and at 10:31 took off from the runway at Schiphol Airport. It was necessary to fly, among other things, over the territory of Ukraine, where by this time the civil war in the Donbass was already in full swing.
In total, the crew of the aircraft consisted of 15 people. The commander of the main crew of the aircraft was 44-year-old Eugene Cho Jin Leong, the co-pilot was 26-year-old Muhamad Firdaus Abdul Rahim. The replacement crew was commanded by 49-year-old Van Amran Van Hassin, the co-pilot was 29-year-old Ahmad Hakimi Hanapi. They were all experienced pilots with many thousands of hours flown. In addition, there were 11 flight attendants on the plane - 3 stewards and 8 stewardesses - all of them were also citizens of Malaysia.
This ill-fated Boeing flight carried 283 passengers. Most of the passengers were Dutch citizens as the plane had taken off from Amsterdam. In addition to the Dutch, citizens of Malaysia, Australia, Indonesia, Great Britain, Germany, Belgium, the Philippines, Canada, Romania and New Zealand flew on the Boeing.
Tragedy in the sky over Donbass
At 13:20 UTC, the plane, which by that time was flying over the eastern part of Donbass, was shot down by a rocket. Its warhead exploded to the left of the aircraft, in the cockpit area, after which the aircraft began to disintegrate in the air. The cockpit and half of the business class cabin almost immediately broke off and fell to the ground, and the rest of the aircraft was in the air for some time, flying another 8.5 kilometers to the east. Only about one and a half minutes passed from the moment of defeat to the fall to the ground of the last parts of the aircraft.
The plane, or rather its wreckage, crashed near the village of Grabovo in the vicinity of the city of Torez, Donetsk region. The wreckage was scattered over a territory with a total area of more than 15 square kilometers. All the people on board the plane were killed.
In terms of the number of deaths, the disaster in the Donetsk region became the largest after the events of September 11, 2001. She also entered the top ten largest aviation accidents in the entire aeronautics.
The National Bureau for the Investigation of Aviation Accidents and Incidents with Civil Aircraft of Ukraine received information about the disappearance of a Boeing 777-200 aircraft with registration number 9M-MRD from the radar screens on the morning of July 18, 2014. Notifications about the incident were sent to Malaysia as the country of registration and operation of the Boeing, the United States of America as the country of origin, as well as the Netherlands and Australia, whose citizens died as a result of the crash.
Search work has begun on the ground. Since the plane crashed in the area under the control of the Donetsk militia, the leadership of the Donetsk People's Republic allowed Ukrainian specialists to participate in the search operation.
On July 21, 2014, a train with the bodies of 282 dead left the Torez railway station for Kharkiv. It was decided to carry out the procedure for identifying the bodies of the dead in the Netherlands. Another 16 bodies were under the wreckage of the fuselage and were removed only after the entire search operation was completed. The Netherlands took the lead in investigating all the circumstances of the tragedy. The flight recorders were handed over by representatives of the DPR to the Malaysian authorities, who, in turn, handed them over to the Netherlands.
The plane was shot down by a rocket
The investigation into all the circumstances of the disaster took more than a year. Initially, different versions of what happened were put forward, but in the end the final conclusion was made - the plane was shot down by a surface-to-air missile. On October 13, 2015, the Dutch Safety Board (DSB) presented the final version of the report of the investigation into the circumstances of the crash. An analysis of the wreckage of the aircraft and fragments recovered from the bodies of passengers and crew members of the liner showed that the aircraft was shot down by a missile with a 9N314M warhead. Such warheads are equipped with 9M38 and 9M38M1 missiles. These missiles are used as part of the Buk, Buk-M1 and Buk-M1-2 anti-aircraft missile systems.In the second part of the report, it was concluded that the Ukrainian services responsible for organizing air traffic did not adequately take into account all the risks that could accompany the flight of a civil aircraft over the war zone in Donbass.
The results of the investigation caused a negative reaction both in Ukraine and in Russia. President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko hastened to refute the accusations against the Ukrainian air services, emphasizing that they already closed the airspace up to an altitude of 9725 meters and did not assume that it was also dangerous to fly above this mark.
In the Russian Federation, the results of the Dutch investigation were considered biased and tendentious. Information was published that the rocket was launched from the territory that was at that moment under the control not of the DPR militias, but of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Deputy head of the Federal Air Transport Agency Oleg Storchevoi, speaking at a press conference on October 14, 2015, called the report of the Dutch side fabricated, made in the "technique of fitting facts to predetermined conclusions."
On January 14, 2016, he sent a letter to the Dutch Safety Board criticizing the report, but the Dutch authorities replied that the letter did not contain any new or valuable information. Meanwhile, almost from the very beginning of the investigation, the fact that Malaysia was admitted to the results of the investigation only a few months later could not but arouse suspicion. But after all, Malaysia was the country of registration and operation of the crashed aircraft, and the crew and a significant part of the passengers were citizens of this country.
In turn, the United States and the EU countries fully supported the report of the Netherlands, since it fit perfectly into their paradigm of treating Russia as a country that allegedly unleashed a war in Donbas and posed a threat to both Ukraine and the world as a whole.
The Dutch Foreign Ministry and the Australian Foreign Ministry officially blamed the disaster on Russia. Formed after the disaster, the international Joint Investigation Team (JIT), which included representatives of the Netherlands, Belgium, Australia and Ukraine (Malaysia was admitted to it only in the fall of 2014), stated that the liner was shot down by a missile that belonged to the 53rd anti-aircraft missile brigade of the RF Armed Forces, stationed in the Kursk region. But, of course, there was no real evidence for this.
As for Ukraine, its President Petro Poroshenko almost immediately after the disaster accused the Donbass militias and the Russian special services of being involved in it. The Security Service of Ukraine opened a criminal case in connection with the incident under Article 258 of the Criminal Code of Ukraine (terrorist act). Naturally, the West immediately took advantage of the disaster in the Donbass to impose additional economic sanctions against the Russian Federation.
In turn, Alexander Borodai, who then served as chairman of the government of the DPR, said that the militia did not have such anti-aircraft missile systems in service, from which it would be possible to shoot down such a high-flying aircraft.
Representative of the Russian Defense Ministry, Major General Igor Konashenkov, said that the rocket that hit the liner was indeed made on the territory of modern Russia, but back in Soviet times, and after the collapse of the USSR, the rocket ended up on the territory of Ukraine. Russian anti-aircraft missile systems "Buk-M1-2", according to the representative of the Ministry of Defense, did not cross the border between the Russian Federation and Ukraine.
Five years later. West continues to blame Russia, Malaysia doubts
In June 2019, it became known that the Ukrainian side also appointed "suspects" in organizing a missile attack on the liner. These are Igor Girkin (Strelkov), who at that time held the post of Minister of Defense of the Donetsk Republic, Sergey Dubinsky, who headed the intelligence of the DPR, Leonid Kharchenko, commander of the intelligence unit of the GRU DPR, and lieutenant colonel of the Russian army reserve Oleg Pulatov.All of the above, except Kharchenko, are citizens of the Russian Federation. At the same time, information appeared that the Ukrainian authorities would not demand the extradition of the listed citizens, and this circumstance in itself raises big questions. In fact, it is completely unprofitable for Kyiv to have a public trial of those who were “appointed” in Ukraine as the perpetrators of the tragedy. After all, any trial can shed light on the true causes of the crash of the liner. No wonder the Dutch authorities still do not agree to publish the results of the investigation of the disaster.
The position of the Malaysian leadership is very interesting in this context. Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohammad (pictured) said in June 2019 that Malaysia was very disappointed with attempts by Western countries to put all the blame for what happened on the Russian Federation and use the disaster for political purposes.
According to the Prime Minister of Malaysia, until now the world has only "rumors" about Russia's imaginary involvement in this tragic event. As for the evidence, the West does not provide them, but the accusations against Moscow fell even before the investigation of all the circumstances of the disaster began.
They blame Russia, but where is the evidence? We know that the missile that brought down the plane was of the Russian type, but it could also have been made in Ukraine. It looks like the idea centered around trying to put the blame on the Russians,
Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohammad said.
These words of the head of the government of the country that owned the downed Boeing, and more than all other countries are interested in an objective investigation of what happened, are very significant, as well as the fact that Malaysia is still not allowed to decrypt the “black boxes” of the aircraft.
It is beneficial for the West to expose Russia as the direct culprit of the disaster, and for this, in Amsterdam, Brussels, Washington, London, they are ready to do anything, including outright falsification of evidence and suppression of facts.
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How and why MH17 crashed
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The version of the downing of flight MH17 by the Ukrainian Su-25 attack aircraft was first voiced at a briefing by the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation on July 21, 2014, which became the Russian response to a video published by the National Security Service of Ukraine, blaming separatists and Russia for the destruction of a civilian aircraft, as well as on the amateur videos that appeared on the Internet of the transportation of the Buk missile launcher with a full ammunition load (4 anti-aircraft guided missiles - SAM - 9M38), first from Russia to the territory controlled by the separatists, and then - an emergency return to Russia of the same installation, but already with an incomplete ammunition load consisting of three missiles.
At the briefing of the Ministry of Defense (video is presented on the right), the following main points were made:
According to the Russian military, the Malaysian Boeing-777, flying over Donetsk, deviated to the north by 14 kilometers; after that, he tried to return to his corridor, but did not succeed;
Before the crash, the Boeing 777 began to lose speed;
At the disposal of the Russian Ministry of Defense there are space images with the location of the air defense systems of the Ukrainian army in the south-east of Ukraine before the Boeing crash, according to which the Ukrainian Buk air defense systems were redeployed to Shakhtyorsk the day before;
On the day of the disaster, an air defense grouping of the Ukrainian armed forces was deployed near Donetsk, consisting of three or four divisions of the Buk-M1 anti-aircraft missile system, and the Boeing-777 route fell into their radius of action;
A Ukrainian combat aircraft, presumably a Su-25, climbed in the direction of a Malaysian Boeing; the distance between the Boeing and the Su-25 was only 3-5 kilometers; thus, a Ukrainian combat aircraft capable of carrying an R-60 air-to-air missile flew for several minutes along the civil aviation airway, almost simultaneously and at the same flight level (altitude) with a passenger aircraft;
At the time of the crash, another object was observed in the same mark of airspace controls;
At the time of the crash, an American satellite was flying over this place;
Russia did not transfer Buk missile systems and other types of weapons to the militias.
The briefing by the Russian Ministry of Defense evokes a very ambiguous impression due to numerous inconsistencies, contradictions, distortions and evidence of outright incompetence of the speakers. For example, in his speech, the Chief of the Main Operational Directorate of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, Lieutenant-General Andrey Kartapolov (timecode of the briefing video 13:10) talks about three civilian airliners in the Donetsk region, and on the diagram ("slide") of objective control data air situation in the Donetsk region on July 17, 2014 (briefing video timecode from 12:50) 4 airliners are shown. But this, as they say, "still flowers."
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Thus, an unbiased analysis of even the data that was presented at the briefing, gives the flight MH17 deviation from the axis of the route by only 8 kilometers, which, taking into account the normalized width of the international air corridor of 10-20 km, makes this deviation insignificant.
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As you can see, the route of flight MH17 actually deviated slightly to the north, but the routes on the diagram of our Ministry of Defense and on FlightRadar24 intersect only at one (!) point, before following in different (!) corridors, differing by many tens of kilometers in distance and tens of degrees in azimuth, approaching only a few minutes before the crash, and finally meeting at the place where the debris fell ... Such a discrepancy should have confused any unbiased person, including the military who drew these diagrams - after all, www.FlightRadar24.com is always at hand , and only for mobile gadgets (tablets and smartphones) it has three (!) Versions - Flightradar 24 Free, Flightradar 24 Pro and FR24 Premium (more than 6 million downloads in total!) ... However, our staff officers preferred an unfettered flight of thought, in a fit of free creativity, coloring their paper maps with felt-tip pens ... By the way, a logical question arises: if we assume the existence of a "presumably" Ukrainian Su-25 (a 4-minute unidentified object at an altitude of more than 5000 meters), then if this Su-25 is located at the point indicated on the diagram of the Ministry of Defense, and the Malaysian Boeing - on the route according to FlightRadar24, it turns out that the minimum distance between them was different than what was announced at the briefing. It seems that this steep route squiggle on the map of the Ministry of Defense arose in the minds of the draftsman of the scheme before the briefing, when he had to "dock" another, more southern corridor W 633, passing over Donetsk, and the point in the corridor L980, at which the position of the aircraft was first determined Russian dispatchers who were preparing to take the Boeing for escort after crossing the Russian-Ukrainian border. The erroneous corridor and the real coordinates differed significantly, and the staff hack, without hesitation, picked up the patterns, drew a conjugating line, and, having measured the size of the resulting hump near the trajectory with a ruler, joyfully reported to the authorities "deviated to the north by 14 kilometers!" It’s good that the staff officer had a map of eastern Ukraine at hand, and not East Timor or Western Sahara ... An important conclusion follows from all this, which will be very useful to us in the future, because it explains a lot - none of the military officers of the Russian Ministry of Defense who drew and reviewed these diagrams before the briefing, like the top generals who read their prepared texts in front of the cameras, even after several days after the tragedy, they have no idea what kind of international air corridor flight MH17 was flying over eastern Ukraine. They were sure at the briefing that the Malaysian Boeing-777 was coming from the west (in corridor W 633), and not from the north-west (corridor L980), and flew over Donetsk, writing out its "suspicious" squiggle in the sky. But these are people who worked in a normal environment in cozy Moscow offices and possess (on demand) any information necessary for analysis on the organization of air traffic. What then to say about those who on July 17 in the field, with a lack of information under the most severe time limit, decided (gave the order) to destroy the Malaysian Boeing?! Recordings from both flight recorders, voice and flight data, stopped at 13:20:03.There were no reports of unforeseen situations from the board." Thus, the entire development of the catastrophe was extremely fleeting and fit within the interval of several seconds, if we count from the last negotiations between the controller and the aircraft to the termination of the "black boxes". The last message from the crew was received at 13:19:56, the phrase ended at 13:19:59. The dispatcher called the board just a second later, at 13:20:00, and spoke for five seconds, but did not receive an answer. The final conclusion based on all the studied data: flight MH17 flew on the regular route L980 with minimal deviations from the flight plan, no one specially brought him anywhere, did not take him away from the airway and did not give any "commands to descend". Flight MH17 was in the cleared zone all the time and followed all the instructions of the controllers. Such is the price of the words of our generals at the briefing about corridors, deviations and other things... But let's return to the situation room of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation on July 21 for further analysis of the statements made. Let's say right away - when watching the briefing of our military sample in 2014, there is a persistent feeling of "de jà vu", especially starting from the time code of the video 24:36: "... according to our calculations, from 17:06 to 17:21 minutes Moscow time on July 17, an American spacecraft actually flew over the southeastern regions of Ukraine. This is an apparatus of an experimental space system designed to detect and track missile launches of various ranges. If the American side has pictures from this satellite, they would be asked to provide them to the world community for detailed study. Whether it's an accident or not, the time of the Malaysian Boeing crash and the time of observation of Ukrainian territory by an American satellite coincide.". How can one not recall here the report of the Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Soviet Union, Marshal Nikolai Ogarkov, who also claimed on September 9, 1983 that the South Korean Boeing-747 passenger plane shot down on September 1 over southern Sakhalin was " US reconnaissance provocation, synchronized in time with the passage of an American spy satellite"! One detail attracts attention - the type of American satellite is called ( "device of experimental space system") and its purpose is indicated ( "to detect and track missile launches of various ranges"), but even despite the assertion of its passage (" really flew") the satellite itself is not called, its designation or name - why? If we know - what prevents us from naming it, it's not our satellite, but an American one? But not everything is so simple - the search for answers to these questions, i.e. attempts to identify the mentioned of an American reconnaissance satellite that flew (as we will see, the word "allegedly" is quite appropriate here) over the Donetsk region at the time of the death of the Malaysian Boeing, lead to the idea of the desire of our military to "cast a shadow on the fence", along the way trying to get information about one of the most classified American satellites. Only the satellites of the American two-component (two-level) integrated system for the early detection of ballistic missile launches fit the description given at the briefing SBIRS ( Space-Based Infrared System - space-based infrared system). This system has been deployed since mid-2006 and is supposed to replace the old DSP system, which provided early warning functions for ICBM launches since 1970. In contrast to the DSP system, whose satellites were launched only into geostationary orbit (as of mid-2013 in six satellites operated as part of the DSP system), i.e. "hung" over certain points of the equator, the SBIRS program (which has the highest priority in the USA) provides for the creation of two echelons of specialized satellites - in high orbits (two segments: on geostationary orbits with satellites SBIRS -GEO, and on highly elliptical orbits SBIRS -HEO) and in low orbits (SBIRS -Low, later renamed STSS - Space Tracking and Surveillance System, Space Tracking and Surveillance Program) . Alluding to the satellites of the SBIRS system, our military is cunning many times. Firstly, this system is designed to detect ballistic missile launches and track their flight, which makes it possible to calculate possible points of impact of warheads and give target designation to missile defense systems. Emphasize - to detect ballistic, measuring tens of meters and weighing tens of tons, and not for light anti-aircraft surface-to-air missiles several meters in size and weighing several hundred kilograms (we are not talking about miniature air-to-air guided missiles at all). The point here is the following (and this is the second cunning of our generals) - SBIRS satellites are not reconnaissance satellites, they are observation devices "sharpened" for a highly specialized task - detecting the launch of large missiles by infrared (thermal) radiation from a fire torch created by powerful marching rocket engines thrust into many tens of tons capable of lifting a very heavy ballistic missile. To do this, SBIRS satellites are equipped with special equipment operating in the shortwave and extended mid-infrared (IR) spectrum: A scanning IR sensor designed to detect ballistic missiles at an early stage of flight (at this moment, the hot torch of rocket rocket engines reaches a length of tens of meters, which makes it possible to detect a rocket launch even in the atmosphere, at altitudes of more than 5 km); Accompanying IR sensor designed to track missiles and warheads out of the atmosphere, against the backdrop of cold space. There are no cameras or similar equipment that form the usual images of the earth's surface in the visible range on board the SBIRS satellites, and the images generated by infrared sensors are very specific. But that's not all! The missile detection time after its launch is the most important property of the missile launch warning system - the sooner its launch is detected, the more time will be left to respond and take countermeasures, and the more reliable its subsequent tracking will be and its trajectory and possible target will be more accurately determined. The previous American DSP system is able to register a missile launch in 40-50 seconds - it does not work earlier, because. for the first tens of seconds, a rocket taking off is observed against the background of the Earth. The new SBIRS system, which includes satellites in low orbits with more sensitive equipment, after its full deployment will be able to detect a take-off ballistic missile as early as 20 seconds after launch. Let's highlight two key words here. after fully deployed" (and the regular low-orbit constellation of SBIRS satellites should include 24 spacecraft), and the word " ballistic"(Which is in no way comparable to any missile capable of shooting down flight MH17 anyway). The deployment of the SBIRS system had just begun, and by the summer of 2014, only two satellites had been launched into geostationary orbit (SBIRS -GEO-1 and SBIRS-GEO-2 ), and only two regular satellites for low orbits (SBIRS-NEO-1 and SBIRS -H EO-2). In addition, three more STSS-ATRR technology demonstrator satellites (USA-205) were launched as part of the STSS program. , STSS-Demo1 (USA-208) And STSS-Demo2 (USA-209). Thus, by July 17, 2014, there were only seven satellites in near-Earth orbits carrying instruments of the SBIRS or STSS system, that is, the system is still far from complete. Open sources state that until the full deployment of the SBIRS system, the ballistic missile launch warning function will continue to be performed by the DSP system, which detects heavy missile launches, as already mentioned, only 40-50 seconds after launch, i.e. at flight altitudes above 15-20 km. It turns out that the currently available satellites of the incompletely deployed SBIRS system at the height of flight MH17 would hardly be able to detect the launch of not only an anti-aircraft, but even a ballistic missile. Or could they still? This is especially interesting given the fact that after a full-scale deployment, the SBIRS system should detect the launch as early as 20 seconds after launch, and the 9M38M1 anti-aircraft missile of the Buk-M1 complex has a solid-propellant engine that leaves behind a torch noticeable in the infrared range, it works just 15 -20 seconds. So how sensitive are the infrared sensors of satellites cooled to cryogenic temperatures? This is the most important question of the limit of the "vigilance" of the onboard equipment of the satellite, which partly explains the phrase of General Kartapolov: " If the American side has images from this satellite, they would be asked to provide them to the world community for detailed study". In other words, show - if your satellite was, then show - he detected the rocket launch or not? This is particularly interesting given that on July 19, 2014, Reuters quoted the U.S. Representative on the UN Security Council, Samantha Power, as saying that “… Infrared sensors of the geostationary satellite of the DSP missile warning system recorded the moment of the explosion of the airliner. The resulting data shows the trace of a missile, probably SA-11, which allowed us to calculate the missile launch area near the Russian-Ukrainian border, which is under the control of pro-Russian separatists". But the Americans did not provide evidence of what was said in the form of a photograph taken! So do they really have voiced data that they do not present for reasons of secrecy, or is this a bluff? It would be useful to recall the strange statement of the President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko on July 20, 2014: " We have satellite images from the rocket launch site..." Then it was clear what was said at the briefing: " If the American side has pictures..."
By the way, why If"? Why is there some uncertainty in Kartapolov's speech: on the one hand, there is an assumption" according to our calculations", and on the other hand, the statement " really flew"? Did it fly by or not? Let's try to figure it out. All objects (larger than a few centimeters in size) in near-Earth orbits have been discovered and catalogued. There are two observation systems in the world that form two corresponding catalogs - in the USA and Russia. Only these two countries have full-fledged national systems for controlling outer space. In the United States, the orbital parameters (the so-called orbital elements, or a set of orbital elements) of all artificial satellites are compiled into the Strategic Command catalog, but with one feature - being publicly available, this catalog does not contain the orbital elements of some of the most secret American satellites. In Russia, the National Space Control System (NCCS), which is part of the Space Forces, maintains a similar Main Catalog of space objects, which is why our catalog of space objects is absolutely secret. There is also the so-called worldwide network of observers (trekkers), uniting amateur enthusiasts equipped with telescopes from all over the world and headed by the famous "satellite catcher" Ted Molchan. This worldwide network is mainly engaged in the fact that with its observations quite successfully supplements the US Strategic Command catalog of satellites with "missing" orbital elements. So, back to satellites" experimental space system designed to detect and track missile launches of various ranges" SBIRS - today, the parameters of the orbits of all the mentioned satellites are publicly available (we omit geostationary satellites, because their orbital plane coincides with the plane of the earth's equator, and therefore they never fly over Ukraine), but with one nuance - at the time of their tragedy ". True, there is information that the SBIRS equipment sets can (as a "passing cargo") be installed on other satellites with suitable orbit parameters. Thus, the exact elements of the orbit of these satellites are unknown, our catalog is generally closed, and the network of amateurs did not update this data. Well, nothing really is known about the presence of sets of reconnaissance equipment on other satellites. In other words, on the basis of open data, to confirm or deny the fact of the flight of STSS low-orbit satellites over the site of the tragedy impossible. This can only be done by the Americans, who know the real parameters of the orbits of their satellites, or the Russian SKKP, which does not publish any data at all. And now the question is - why did we not name this flying American satellite of the SBIRS system at the briefing? Are we sure exactly? After all, if we are sure, then it was possible to name the satellite, showing the Americans that the parameters of its orbit are an "open secret" for us. But if we are not sure, then the phrase " would like to provide images from this satellite is nothing more than a call to the Americans to voluntarily declassify its orbital elements. It seems that the orbital parameters of all American satellites of the SBIRS system are still known to our SKKP - it follows that Marshal Ogarkov was more honest for 31 years than Lieutenant General Kartapolov ... Although ... another explanation is possible - none of the SBIRS satellites really did not fly over Ukraine during the MH17 tragedy, and we know this, but we publicly declare the opposite, because we are sure that the Americans will still be silent, since any exact information on the current orbit of these satellites is secret. On July 25, 2014, the Americans responded to Andrei Kartapolov in the words of US State Department spokesperson Marie Harf (at a briefing for foreign journalists in Washington): “ We have already distributed our assessment, we have announced as much information as possible at the moment. Everything that we could declassify and that underlies this assessment. And we continue to work to announce even more. <…> We have circulated a photograph showing the trajectory of this missile. It's based on classified information and we can't explain how we know it.<…> We know who has been supporting the separatists for many months. We know that without the direct support of the Russian government, these separatists would not even be able to be in eastern Ukraine and do what they do.<…> Russia did circulate a map showing the alleged locations of the SA-11 batteries within reach of the crash site - we are convinced that this information is incorrect. We have information that the nearest Ukrainian SA-11 battery is far out of range relative to both the missile launch site and the aircraft crash site, i.e. there were simply no Ukrainian SA-11s within this radius. This is our own information. We've got our eyes on this area». At least two conclusions follow from this speech by M. Harf. Firstly, the US does not really present all the information it has because of its secrecy, or pretend that it does. And, secondly, they refute the data presented at the briefing about the location of the Ukrainian Buk anti-aircraft missile systems. So, based on the consideration that such an official statement by a representative of the US State Department cannot be completely groundless, we, while remaining objective, must question both the statement of the US State Department and the information of our military about "three or four Ukrainian air defense divisions." And here, both the satellite images presented by our Ministry of Defense at their briefing, and the missing images from American satellites, no longer prove or disprove anything: our photographs can be fake (taken at a significantly different time), and the missing American ones really exist, but lie in secret archives. We add that questions are possible from our images - they could be taken both by a reconnaissance satellite from orbit, and by an unmanned aerial vehicle from a low altitude. No special "irrefutable" evidence of their "cosmic" origin was presented at the briefing. For example, all five (the second and third of the six images are two fragments of one image) satellite photographs shown at the briefing have dating accurate to the minute:
What time is indicated is not exactly known. This may be summer Moscow time, but most likely - maternity leave Moscow time (DMV), since all Russian spacecraft are controlled by the UDM. Then the flights on July 14 at 11:41 UTC and on July 18 at 11:39 UMT at an angular height of 78° and 80°, respectively, were carried out by the Russian reconnaissance satellite Kosmos-2486 (Persona No. 2L, 39177U), i.e. he took pictures No. 2, No. 3 and No. 6, and the remaining two pictures were taken by the Resurs-P satellite No. 1 (07/14/2014 11:31, height above the horizon 59 ° , and 07/17/2014 11:32 with a height of 5 7 °) . On the one hand, ballistics confirms the authenticity of the shots. But on the other hand, skeptics can always object that the dating was applied during the subsequent processing of images (and it is undoubted) and does not necessarily correspond to the real one, testifying only to the fact that they worked more professionally with the preparation of images for the briefing than with the air situation diagram. Thus, the coverage of the briefing in the conditions of the information war is largely a matter of faith, not evidence ... Until now, the words of A. Kartapolov " really flew over the southeastern regions of Ukraine"We took it literally. But in fairness, we need to answer the question - were there satellites that did not fly over the tragedy area, but could still see it from space? Of course! Satellites could see this areaSBIRS -GEO1 (point of "standing" above the equator 94 ° E) and SBIRS-GEO2(2 1 ° E) - a significant part of the Eastern Hemisphere, including Ukraine, fell into their field of vision. In addition, at the time of the death of the Boeing 777, a highly elliptical satelliteSBIRS-NEO-1 ( USA-184) was at the apogee of its trajectory at an altitude of about 39,000 km, and, being over the North Sea, "saw" the scene. It can also be assumed that there are not many active hostilities in the Eastern Hemisphere now, and events in the east of Ukraine should not have been the last priority for satellites. Let's look even more broadly - could the area of the tragedy be seen from space in the indicated period of time from any other American low-orbit reconnaissance satellites capable of photographing the earth's surface? The answer is positive - the Donetsk region was visible from the orbit of one of the American satellites of the specific (optical-electronic) reconnaissance USA-161 type KN-11. The strong optical telescope of this satellite looks down (to the nadir), taking pictures of the sub-satellite regions along the flight path, and can deviate to the sides (to the right and left) at small angles. But this time the shooting conditions were extremely unfavorable - if you look at the satellite USA-161 from Donetsk (more precisely, from the Zaroshchenskoye region, from a point with geographical coordinates 47.5900° N, 38.2705° E), then at the most favorable moment he barely rose above the horizon (elevation angle, i.e. .the elevation angle above the horizon did not exceed 13° at 17:20:39). If at this moment USA-161 decided to take a picture of the Donetsk region, then he would still have failed - firstly, at such an angle of elevation, the area of the earth's surface of interest would be visible almost edge-on, and secondly, any details would be indistinguishable, since he had to shoot would be through the absorbing thickness of the earth's atmosphere, also viewed almost edge-on. To make it clear - at noon we cannot look at the Sun without the risk of blinding, and at sunset or sunrise, when sunlight is weakened by the entire thickness of the atmosphere along the horizon - no problem (at the same time, the absorption of sunlight is so great that the visible disk of the Sun as it approaches changes color to red towards the horizon). Taking into account what has been said, during the indicated period of time, the KN-11 satellite was guaranteed not to be able to film the Donetsk region. I note that if the task was to synchronize the passage of the satellite USA-161 with some civil aircraft over eastern Ukraine, it was much more convenient to do it on the previous orbit of the satellite - at 15:49:21 it rose over the crash site at an angle of 35 °, and this is already something (albeit with a serious turn in roll)... But this is not the end of the story about the American satellite. The fact is that if we deal with satellites even more deeply, then for Russia this topic is a "double-edged sword." Suppose one of the three parties to the conflict in eastern Ukraine (the Kiev authorities, the separatists in the southeast and Russia) really wanted to synchronize some airspace event associated with a certain flight of a civil airliner with the passage of some American satellite over it. To do this, you need to clearly know two things - the time of flight of the selected aircraft over a certain area and a possible satellite over it. And then everything is simple. The flight time of the MH17 flight (according to the flight schedule and their support by their own dispatch services) was known only by Ukraine (flying the plane) and Russia (preparing to take it for escort in a few minutes) as subjects of international law responsible for the safety of flights over their territories. The separatists here do not sideways at all. But with a satellite, the situation is different. As already mentioned, today in the world only two countries have full-fledged systems for controlling outer space, the leading catalogs of all objects in near-Earth orbits are the USA and Russia. Ukraine does not have such a service. Therefore, if we are talking about synchronizing the flight of an aircraft and a satellite, then Russia would have been much more convenient to do this than Ukraine - for this, Ukraine had to ask the United States for secret information related to the national security of the United States itself, and Russia always has everything at hand. Okay, let's assume that Ukraine was able to synchronize flight MH17 with a US satellite flyby using US information support. Ukraine is not the closest ally of the United States, and not even a NATO member with which you can start delicate joint operations, but let's say. Let all this be a joint Ukrainian-American provocation with some goals, while Ukraine shoots down a civilian airliner, and America is watching this with its satellite. For all the wildness of this version, let's put ourselves in the place of the Americans, who decided to use their satellite to monitor the destruction of the aircraft in the atmosphere. But then, for this role, it is most effective to use an electronic intelligence satellite, which will be able to fix the operation of various radar stations (Ukraine, Russia and separatists), their frequencies and coordinates, intercept the communications of ground civilian services and parts of the Air Force and Air Defense, open the system of command and control through the interception of radio traffic and control the passage of commands, well, etc. That is why the main argument in favor of the version that on September 1, 1983, the South Korean Boeing-747 performed reconnaissance functions was the fact of several passes over it of the American Ferret-D electronic intelligence satellite (by the way, this can serve as an explanation for why the Japanese dispatcher did not told the crew of the Boeing 747 that he was "not where he should be" - the plane was painfully effective in opening up the Soviet air defense system in the Far East for Japanese intelligence). Did any American electronic reconnaissance satellite pass over the Donetsk region at the time we are interested in? Yes! It would seem that this was a hit on the bull's-eye - at the time of the tragedy, a pair of NOSS 3-2 satellites were heading Cairo - Batumi - Volgograd, and their radio visibility zone was from 13:17 to 13:30 UTS (Greenwich Mean Time), i.e. these spacecraft were able to monitor the operation of ground-based radars for three minutes before and for about 10 minutes after the aircraft crashed. But! ... The main feature of the satellites of the military ocean surveillance system (Naval Ocean Surveillance System, NOSS) is that they are launched and work in pairs (the last third generation) or triples (the first two generations), moving in orbit next to each other, clearly coordinating the distance between them. A pair of satellites NOSS 3-2 (USA-173) A and C (2003-054A and 2003-054C) was launched on December 2, 2003 by one Atlas IIAS launch vehicle and actively operated for subsequent years, but at the time of July 17, 2014 this pair has already broken up (satellites A and C have separated), which indicates the inoperability of NOSS 3-2. Could this satellite see anything on July 17, 2014 - the question remains open ... The next most effective in this situation are surveillance satellites that form an image of the terrain along the flight path. These can be radar reconnaissance satellites, which, with the help of on-board synthetic aperture radar equipment, can receive highly detailed images of the earth's surface, regardless of weather conditions and time of day (radio emission does not need sunlight and clouds do not interfere). In extreme cases, you can also use photo- or optoelectronic reconnaissance satellites that take pictures of the earth's surface both in the visible range and in the infrared range of the electromagnetic spectrum (as already mentioned USA-161) - they can get the most detailed images of the earth's surface, but if you're lucky - their effectiveness depends significantly on the time of day and cloud cover. But it is simply useless to use a satellite of a ballistic missile launch detection system to monitor the destruction of an aircraft by an anti-aircraft missile or other interceptor aircraft at an altitude of 10 kilometers - there is no practical sense in such "synchronization", the satellite, by definition, will not detect anything. This in itself suggests that there was no special synchronization of the passage of flight MH17 over eastern Ukraine on July 17 with the passage of the American satellite of the SBIRS system. And so the replica of Lieutenant General A. Kartapolov " ... the time of the crash of the Malaysian Boeing, and the time of observation by the American satellite of the Ukrainian territory - coincide"was designed for the layman, no more (in parentheses, we note that all the versions voiced at the briefing "work" only if Ukraine and America are completely idiotic). Here is such an interesting story with this American satellite ... But I will continue. At the end of the briefing, Lieutenant General Andrey Kartapolov, Chief of the Main Operational Directorate of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, on behalf of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, said (timecode of the briefing video from 26:27) the following: " In conclusion, I would like to note that the information presented by us is based on objective and reliable data from various Russian technical means, in contrast to the groundless accusations against us. An example of this is the media coverage of the movement of the Buk-M1 launcher on a trailer, allegedly carried out from Ukrainian to Russian territory. There is a clear manipulation of materials. The pictures were taken in the city of Krasnoarmeysk, which is confirmed by a banner located next to the road, which indicates the address of the car dealership at 34 Dnipropetrovskaya Street. But since May 11, Krasnoarmeysk itself has been under the control of the Ukrainian army. In this regard, we have a number of questions - what kind of launcher is it, where was it transported, where is it now, why is it loaded with incomplete missile ammunition, and when was the last time it was launched from it. Here we have to state with regret that if until that moment all the briefing’s blunders could still be attributed to the haste in its preparation and the incompetence of the military involved in this “special operation”, then from the mention of the video of the movement of the Buk missile launcher on the trailer and further, after words of Lieutenant General Andrei Kartapolov " ...the information provided by us is based on objective and reliable data", - I recall the unforgettable from the brilliant satirical novel-feuilleton by I. Ilf and E. Petrov "The Twelve Chairs": " Ostap suffered!" The scriptwriters of the briefing were guided by the rule formulated by the writer Yulian Semenov in his famous novel "Seventeen Moments of Spring": " Remember the last sentence. It is important - how to enter the desired conversation, but even more important - the art of exiting the conversation". Therefore, the entire briefing, everything said and shown in it so far was only a prelude, a lead to the most important thesis - Ukraine cannot be trusted, it is certainly to blame, and therefore all its accusations against Russia of moving the Russian self-propelled firing system of the Buk air defense system to separatist-controlled Ukrainian territory, with its subsequent destruction of a passenger liner and the hasty return of this SDA back to Russia - a clumsily fabricated lie of the Ukrainian special services. But, trying to refute this accusation in the final part of his speech, Kartapolov is so, to put it mildly, wrong that this one of his ...... in the age of the Internet and global social networks is revealed, as they say, "at once." And ruins the whole idea with a briefing ... Judge for yourself - a video inconvenient for Russia appeared in |
As they say, the road is a spoon for dinner.
It's like time signals:
who did not understand about November 1, for that we repeat:
November 4, 2015
TASS
14:29
Media: about 50 people were on board the An-12 with the Russian crew that crashed in South Sudan.
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November 1, 2015
Crash over Sinai of a plane with Russian passengers (more than 220 people,
reported that everyone died), flying to St. Petersburg, in Egypt. Air crashes, most often - and this is easy to verify by analyzing the situation around such events around the world over the past 10 years at least - occur as planned!!!
1. Against the background of information hunger, when there is nothing to fill the media
2. on the eve of events for which it is necessary to prepare the public consciousness (to suppress self-control, to unite according to the meanest principle - a big trouble unites the people best of all),
3. respond to someone's demarche
4. as a training for disaster medicine workers
5. organ sampling, where without it.
Confused a lot today:
1. a hasty statement that not a single person survived, and this is long before all the bodies were found (search radius 15 sq. Km).
2. statement on the day of the disaster by Egypt that 4 people survived and they are in the hospital
3. presentation of information in the media: a lot of tears, close-ups of the weeping faces of relatives, pitiful stories about the fate of the dead ... And what, without this, isn't it a pity for people? Or is it just nice to dig into an open wound? Or is the goal to evoke general fear?
4. unwillingness to admit the obvious, everything will again be attributed to circumstances or an accident. After all, the recognition of the truth will force an adequate response, and no one wants to answer essentially, so cowardly they hide their heads under their wings, and hastily pour money into the grief of relatives and friends, which also creates reason for reflection (in the USA there were many cases when the poor, in despair in another way to provide for his family, insured his life for a large amount and blew up the plane).
5. morality is seen in all this as follows: do whatever you want with us, and we will still be your friends - just let them into the world pie, give control of at least a piece of the globe ..
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July 13, 2015
Australia, Belgium, Malaysia, the Netherlands and Ukraine are calling on members of the UN Security Council to support the proposal to establish an international tribunal for the tragedy of Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 that crashed in eastern Ukraine in July 2014, the press service of the Belgian Foreign Ministry reported on July 12, 2015.
BUT if this tribunal is as biased as those who conducted the official investigation, then there will be no sense in it, those who are directly suspected of being involved in the organization of the Boeing crash cannot be members of the tribunal. Why is there no USA, for example, or France? Let's not talk about Russia. Because these countries have strong evidence that in reality everything was different than Ukraine and the Netherlands are telling.
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The families of the dead Germans are suing Poroshenko, accusing him of involvement in the death of their relatives during the July 17 Boeing crash. And rightly so - he is guilty already because he did everything. to cover up the traces of the crime and interfere with the investigation in every possible way (meaning, of course, the collective Poroshenko).
Yu.Latynina said
14.09.2014
that we live in a time of secular religions, and that the sect of supporters that Putin blew up the houses is as crazy as the sect of supporters that "ukry" blew up the "Boeing"// RIGHT!! There are few good people out there.
BOEING REALLY KNOWN TO NATO, BUT ONLY FIRST IN THE NETHERLANDS THEY DID NOT refuel,
BECAUSE THEY DILUTED KEROSENE WITH WATER.
BUT everything is in order.
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A Malaysian Boeing 777 has just crashed into Ukraine, killing all the passengers, more than 200 people. The plane began to lose altitude from h = 10 thousand meters. It should be noted that this is a convenient height at which planes are shot down. This happened at a distance of 50 km from the Russian border. The board from Copenhagen, according to the plan, was supposed to collapse, most likely on the territory of Russia. But a little missed, warriors.
Larisa Mironova 17.07.2014 17:44
When 4 Oct. 2001, TU 154 of the SIBERIA company fell into the Black Sea, they officially decided that it was Ukrainian. Air defense during training firing shot down a plane flying to Israel. But according to independent investigations, including mine, the fall from a height of about 11 km occurred due to external damage to the wing of the aircraft, the wing was literally riddled with shrapnel, and the death of the Tu 154 passengers occurred from a baro-crash while still in the air, which would be unlikely if the plane was shot down by Ukrainian. rocket.
However, even now the official version has remained the same. There is a suspicion that the Boeing 777 on July 17, 2014 was deliberately shot down over the specified territory, 50 km before entering Russian airspace, and this was most likely done by Europe. Actually, everything will become clear when the wreckage of the aircraft, their relative position, and the crash site are examined.
Larisa Mironova 07/17/2014 20:16
The fact that the Boeing 777 suddenly began to wag and lose altitude from about 10 km may indicate that there were failures in the cyber control system, and the automation began to fail. As a result, there was a fall. The plane did not burn in the air, there is no such data yet. And it would be visible at a great distance. This means that the reason could be a lack of fuel in the tanks, underfilling of kerosene or more water than is permissible, as well as faulty control devices - this could lead to a sudden shutdown of the engines and a forced decrease in altitude.
It could, however, be the following: the decrease in altitude did not occur as a result of the bombardment of the Boeing 777 with a rocket, but because in the last minutes of the flight both engines suddenly stopped, and the Boeing 777 began to descend due to the fact that the supply of fuel was limited - !! !due to the accumulation of ice in the fuel system!!! Ice could have formed from water, which is always present in the fuel, during a long stay of the aircraft in low temperature (at 11 km altitude) of the outside air during flight. Water, I repeat, could be more than possible. (The water content in jet fuels reaches 0.008 - 0.010% of the total mass of the fuel).
Water - as an option or as an alternative to underfilling fuel. Economic calculation - they wanted to save on fuel. Or they used fuel that was not sufficiently purified from water. Intentionally or unintentionally?
Larisa Mironova 07/17/2014 20:23
Euronews presented two versions of the Boeing 777 crash:
1. with reference to Potroshenko, they say that the pro-Russians recently seized from them (Ukrainian Armed Forces) equipment in working order, with the help of which they shot down the Boeing (this is nonsense, because the equipment abandoned by the Ukrainians was disabled beforehand, about which the Ukrainian military themselves said, i.e. it was a deliberate provocation prepared by Kiev)
2. Ukrainian military aircraft Su27 attack aircraft (less suitable for hitting ground targets than the SU-25, but quite suitable for this operation, however, there is no exact data - which 25th or 27th Su were involved) accompanied the Boeing and attacked it in air, this is the version of the DPR militias with reference to eyewitnesses - local residents. Some saw two attack aircraft escorting a Boeing 777. They also saw the moment of the plane's attack and the crash of a passenger plane, and then the fall of the Ukrainian SU-27 attack aircraft. There is already a video recording of the moment of the fall, before that a characteristic noise is heard - an attack on a Boeing from an attack aircraft. The Boeing, which was visible, no longer had a wing when it flew over the territory controlled by the DPR.
However, the aircraft can lose a wing on its own, due to a sharp loss of speed, because. the aerodynamics of the wing is such that at low speed it loses its ability to resist, so low speeds are extremely undesirable, and here, from the moment the altitude was lowered, the actual planning of the Boeing began.
There are no burn marks on the bodies of passengers, there are also clean books and documents, personal belongings of passengers, which means there was no fire inside the plane, but the destruction of the plane occurred while still in the air, the zone of debris and bodies scattering is too large. When the smoking debris fell to the ground, naturally, the grass caught fire, and from it parts of the aircraft. The scatter of bodies and debris is large - so far only a hundred bodies have been found at the main crash site, and there should be about 300.
I watch Potroshenko's interview with the Western media - he indiscriminately accuses the "seperatists", it is clear from his face that he is lying, although he is very nervous.
Black boxes seem to have been found, which means that it is closer to the truth. But those who found it don't even know what they should look like. Perhaps a mistake. Found something else.
Still, I tend to a complex two-stage or even three-stage terrorist attack - first, the control system was disabled, because of which the plane began to lose altitude and wobbling, then just before the crash site, the engine and / or other part of the aircraft was damaged, possibly from the accompanying Boeing 777 attack aircraft or from ground devices.
The West urgently convenes the UN Security Council on the issue of this tragedy - of course, they will unanimously blame the militias. And this is even before receiving the conclusion of the commission on decoding the black boxes! And Potroshenko, from the very first minutes after the disaster, demands that NATO immediately begin a ground operation in the southeast. Biden himself decided to join the investigation, so that the results will be deliberately accusatory in the direction of the militias, this has already been announced in advance. But at least Biden knows the geography, doesn't confuse Iraq with Iran, and distinguishes Slovenia from Slovakia. He also knows that Georgia, with its capital Tbilisi, is not a continental US state. And this is reassuring.
Potroshenko also demands and demands that NATO immediately begin a ground operation against the DPR and LPR! It will turn out like in Iraq - first they executed Saddam for weapons of mass destruction, and then they did not find this very weapon of mass destruction in Iraq. But millions of Iraqis were killed. Such is the price of the total madness that has struck the minds of Western politicians.
Larisa Mironova 07/17/2014 23:51
What is happening now at the Security Council is beyond good and evil.
Now there should be no doubt whose work it is. I did not think that the West would be so primitively substituted. Today is the last calendar day of this world order.
On June 17, 2014, a dirty cheap adventure put an end to the history of the destruction of the old world. I strongly suspect that I will also have to return to the story of the downing of the TU-154 of the SIBERIA company, flying to Israel, on October 4, 2001 over the Black Sea. And to the fall of the Polish plane near Smolensk. There is some connection here. Then, in 2001, Ukraine began to turn away from the gates of Russia towards the West, this was back under Kuchma. Defense Minister Kuzmuk resigned, he was very offended, but you can’t argue against the president. What really happened, no one knows yet. But it was also a dirty job, and not at all a "blunder" (?!) of the Ukrainian shooters. Thank God, Kuzmuk is alive and he knows a lot. Let's ask him. But Kuchma was taught how to say it, and he said it. And everyone still repeats this "fool".
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Premature announcement of the culprit in the downing of the Malaysian airliner
Boeing 777 - they say, it was done, as they put it, "south-eastern separatists and Russia", in itself is significant. Although, according to all the data available at the moment, the criminal adventure was staged by Kiev with the full support and according to the plan of the West. Now it's obvious. We must stop making excuses to the UN Security Council and launch an offensive on the propaganda front. Now we need to conduct a thorough investigation with a full base of evidence, inviting Malaysia, the Netherlands and representatives of all interested countries to participate in it. And it is best to conduct this investigation in Moscow. Openly, under a video camera, with a display in the media. Time to go on a propaganda offensive. Enough of the co-opting. Now this is a surprisingly winning situation for Russia to turn the tide of events - paranoia is incurable, they do not agree with the paranoid, their status is diagnosed and isolated in the international arena. I mean the political establishment of the West in 2014 and, of course, the Kyiv junta.
And let's put things in order in Russia! Without this, it will be difficult to move on. "Collective Putin" is mired in a liberal swamp to the very head. And pulls the whole of Russia into this swamp.
Larisa Mironova 07/18/2014 19:40
It is necessary to identify the bodies as soon as possible and be sure to fix the coordinates from where each body was taken. This will be important to determine from which places these passengers fell, so you can determine how the plane fell apart, and where other debris flew away, the fact that many bodies have not yet been found may indicate that part of the aircraft, maybe. the tail or side fell earlier, because the Boeing 777 over the territory of the DPR was already flying without a wing. It is also necessary, without touching the object, to take a photo of where the remains and wreckage of the aircraft are located, perhaps the tail or one wing fell earlier, and the search radius will be larger.
Option 3, fantastic: some of the passengers, the crew, ejected, but died during the fall. Perhaps it was a lake. But, if they fell on the territory of Ukraine or Poland, then the traces could already be cleared. It is necessary to turn on the inspection of the area directly from the point of wobbling of the Boeing along the trajectory. This is about 150-250 km northwest of the crash site, or even earlier.
However, by the way they lie, you can also understand something about the truth.
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So, what are Kyiv politicians mythologising about so hastily and aggressively:
1. The fact that the militias do not let a commission from Malaysia into the accident site, so the Malaysians sit in Kyiv for three days, and the bodies of the dead decompose in the heat. - It means that the junta deliberately drags out time, does not want an investigation, is afraid of it.
2. They also told the Niders that the militias are dragging bodies and parts of the aircraft from place to place, i.e. actively change the picture of the scatter of debris and bodies - zn. the junta is aware that the plane fell apart in parts, first one part fell, then, at a considerable distance, another, which is why they deliberately reduced the estimated radius of scattering of bodies and search - up to 6-9 km. That is why they needed a version that the militias had already hidden some of the bodies (they do not admit how many bodies are actually in the refrigerators, and where is part of the wreckage)
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3. In fact, the bodies and debris can be (or were) on Ukrainian (from Poland) or even on Polish territory itself, and not only on the territory of the DPR controlled by the militia. From there, these bodies were dragged to the territory of Novorossiya. (She is pink on the map.)
It is necessary to start the search from the place where the trajectory began to decline, and this was 250 km from the crash site. Obviously, what must be borne in mind - on Ukrainian or Polish territory, all traces of bodies and debris could already be covered. But you still need to check, there will still be some traces of debris and bodies there. Service dogs must be used.
In the meantime, there are still many disagreements and direct speculation.
However, the Kiev junta still bluntly claims that the Boeing 777 was shot down by the militias, citing reports that they had air defense systems half an hour before the tragedy. Experts say that the militia does not have such weapons - the Ukrainian side itself stated that they "fell into the hands of rubbish." Nevertheless...
Since July 17, after the first report of the Boeing 777 crash, official Kyiv has called on NATO to immediately destroy Novorossiya. Experts of all stripes are intensely sorting out versions of the tragedy that claimed the lives of almost 300 innocent foreign citizens.
The version about the capture and use of Ukrainian missile systems "Buk" by the militias, replicated with unprecedented persistence by the Ukrainian media, as well as by Euronews and other Western media, was personally denied by Ukraine's Prosecutor General Vitaliy Yarema. According to Ukrayinska Pravda, he reported this to Petro Potroshenko immediately after the crash of the Boeing 777.
After the passenger plane was shot down, the military reported to the president that the terrorists did not have their Buk and S-300 missile systems. The army did not capture this weapon !!!
Thus, the words of the adviser to the Minister of Internal Affairs of Ukraine Anton Gerashchenko, who stated that the liner was shot down by the militias with the Buk missile system, as well as the words of Potroshenko, who blamed the militia for the plane crash, were refuted. Nevertheless, all this disinformation is still walking and walking in the media, not as the main one, but as a working version. And in the European media there are articles under a large heading:
"Putin killed 300 Europeans."
The media of Ukraine, which never differed in speed of work, exactly five minutes after the disaster, simultaneously issued massive messages that could not be written even in 20 minutes, let alone thought about or investigated during this time. Even I can't always think that fast. The momentary filling of the information field with detailed analytical materials suggests that the Ukrainian media were prepared in advance for hasty and uncontested coverage of the catastrophe with an accusatory bias towards the militias and Russia.
This version is also supported by the rapid dissemination of fake talks by "militias" about the downed Boeing, as well as a fake video in which allegedly "pro-Russian" people are driving a Buk from Russia and then back with one missile already fired ... "Evidence" instantly spread throughout the blogosphere , blogger gmorder was one of the first to publish them.
We look at the date of creation 2014-07-16 19:10:24.
This date, July 16, 2014, cannot be changed down in any way, unless the same video is re-uploaded with a more recent number.
It is also noteworthy that, unlike most other airlines, the flight route of the Malaysian Boeing-777 did not go around the conflict zone, but flew right over it. At the same time, the trajectory of the route of the same flight previously ran much to the west, as can be seen on the map. According to a Spanish air traffic controller working at the Ukrainian Boryspil airport, the flight of the Malaysian Boeing-777 was accompanied by two Ukrainian fighter jets. Some eyewitnesses of the Boeing crash also saw two aircraft in the sky next to the Boeing 777. In the video posted online, only one plane is visible going to a height, at the very moment when the Boeing in puffs of black smoke (which usually happens when an engine is damaged) flies to the ground. A mushroom rises at the point of contact of the Boeing with the ground, “the hat consists of three prominences of different shapes. This information is confirmed by many sources. Experts believe that the flight path could have been significantly adjusted.
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After analyzing the latest events in the international political arena, we come to the following conclusions:
a logical chain becomes apparent, as a result of which almost 300 passengers of the Malaysian plane died. Let's remember what the situation was in the world the day before. On July 15, it became known that nine European countries intend to block the imposition of sanctions against Russia by the EU. Already on July 16, the United States, bypassing the European Union, unilaterally tightened sanctions against Russia.
The next day, on July 17, a Malaysian Boeing crashes over Donbass. And they blame the pro-Russian militias and Russia, as usual. And they demand an immediate ceasefire - from the militias, of course, because there are no claims against the junta's punitive battalions, they act, in Washington's opinion, very "restrainedly."
It's time to end the chaos. An impartial investigation of the disaster on July 17, 2014 will put everything in its place. The bandits must sit. And not in the Rada or Beldom, but in other places.
However, already now one can see a complex, it seems, after all, a three-stage structure of this international terrorist attack. (A terrorist attack is not necessarily when an Islamist with a suicide belt blows himself up in a crowd, or who was in the cabin of a Boeing 777 during the flight,
A terrorist attack is any violent act committed in a public place with the aim of intimidating people, society, a state, or a group of states. The purpose of the attack and its nature can be very different.
Of course, here, logically, all possible parties should be involved - the Malaysian and the Netherlands, including, so that, avoiding responsibility, it would be more convenient for the Kiev junta to incline the investigation to the version of guilt in the crash of the Boeing 777 of the DPR militias. NATO, of course, must be present here with inevitability.
In short, the organizers of the Boeing 777 crash near Donetsk needed the maximum internationalization of this crime, so that it would be easier to attack innocent militiamen and Russia with the whole world tied by the same blood. Malaysian pilots can be completely excluded from the list of suspected complicity only after finding and identifying all 15 bodies of the crew members. So far, only about 250 bodies (out of 298) have been found.
So, it can be assumed with a high degree of probability that the events of July 17, 2014 developed according to a pre-prepared, yet three-stage scenario, Kiev would never arbitrarily decide on such an adventure, even if all American consultants demanded that Potroshenko do just that.
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So, the alleged three-part plan of the terrorist attack on July 17, 2014, which led to the fall of the Boeing 777 at about 16-30 Moscow time. 50 km from the border with Russia in the territory controlled by the DPR:
1. 07/17/2014 in the Netherlands at the airport they make an underfill of fuel, there is exactly enough fuel in the tanks to fly to the point of impact (presumably to the border with Russia, but due to the fact that the plane, having lost one wing, did not fly straight, but wobbled from side to side, which reduced both the speed of the Boeing even more and changed the coordinates of the point of impact downward, as a result, it fell 50 km closer than planned), or there was significantly more water in the fuel tanks more than allowed, and then pieces of ice clogged the fuel lines and blocked the supply of kerosene to the engine.
2. Perhaps, on the border with Poland or not far from the border with Poland, on the territory of Ukraine already, a Boeing 777 was attacked by a rocket that exploded nearby, causing one wing to fall off, and the cabin was depressurized. Some of the bodies could have fallen out of the plane right there and then. As a result, the Boeing 777 lost one wing, and parts of it began to spread from the impact of the shock wave after the explosion of the rocket, but retaining the general direction of movement for some time. The attack with the help of a missile was most likely carried out from a NATO base in Poland, this is a NATO missile, or Polish, not Ukrainian, because in the northwestern part of Ukraine, where the already shot down Boeing 777 was flying, there were no military operations, and no combat points were deployed from which it was possible to hit the Malaysian Boeing 777.
The fuss with dragging beeches, the seizure of records of conversations between dispatchers and pilots, when the Ukrainian military let the fog go beyond measure, looks more and more like a red herring to divert suspicion from the Polish side, which, very likely, could not only launch a missile in the direction of a Boeing 777 17 July 2014, but also took part in the bombing of the South-East.
3. In the immediate vicinity of the crash site, the Boeing 777, which was already flying with one wing and would inevitably crash if it fell to the ground, was attacked by a Su-27 attack fighter (some believe it was a Su-25), which is clearly visible on the video, obviously, in the area of the engine, (so that the plane crashes with a full guarantee, so that no one survives and to hide the traces of the previous attack and still more confuse),
the Boeing 777 crashed, thus, where it was planned, although it is still 50 km closer than planned, otherwise it could have significantly gone deeper into the territorial space of Russia, and the version of the downing of the plane by the militias would have disappeared by itself, all the more, it would have been completely participation in this catastrophe of Russia itself is excluded. That's why an attack aircraft was needed at the final, third stage - it destroyed the traces of the two previous stages and corrected the crash site. The second attack aircraft could carry out escort.
You can check whose "dryers" were in the air at that moment over the specified territory.
In addition, near the ground, the cockpit of the aircraft could be fired from mobile ground means, and from both sides of the aircraft at the same time (grenade launchers, etc.), in order to kill the pilot and ensure the inevitable death of all passengers during the collapse of the aircraft in the air.
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21. 07.14 15:45
Now all the bodies have already been found, only fragments of 15 bodies remain, perhaps they all belonged to the crew of the Boeing, if so, then it can be assumed that the main blow, perhaps by an air-to-air missile fired by a Ukrainian or Polish attack aircraft shortly before the landing of the Boeing, or from ground means, fell on the front of the aircraft, in the place where the raft cabin is located, there is also a compartment for personnel. This is another argument in favor of the fact that the blow fell just on the engine, which could still work, although the Boeing was already descending due to the loss of a wing, as well as proof that there was no longer any fuel in the tank - hence the black smoke without flames when falling within a few seconds after the attack on the Boeing.
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And the world has been living in such a madhouse for more than a dozen years!
The world must change not only the configuration, polarity, but also the semantic field, because few people want to live in a madhouse, unipolar or multipolar. Even if there are great opportunities for making big money.
What is the point in them if tomorrow everything can collapse in one moment?
There is no need to immediately demand a truce from the militias, it is only for the benefit of the junta - the Kyiv hawks will not calm down, they only want the militias to capitulate, since they cannot be broken. But it will be the worst option of all possible. After all, the junta was created not for peace, but for violence against the world. She will never recover.
The militias should not be prevented from winning.
They need to be helped in every possible way and worldwide.
They are the world's only hope for the world so far.
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21. 07. 14 23:25
A vote has just passed in the UN Security Council.
The resolution is this - to conduct an international investigation into all the circumstances of the crash of the Boeing 777. So far, no threats either towards Novorossia or towards Russia are reflected in the resolution. Well, at least something.
Sanctions against Russia will be discussed tomorrow at the Council of Ministers of Europe and the United States. Today, all the media in Western countries issued editorials accusing Russia and whitewashing Kyiv. Who made these accusations? It is clear that the BBC and SNN set the tone: they are rewritten by other world media, everyone repeats the same lie voiced by Potroshenko. That's what freedom of the press is in the Western world. How will they be laundered when the results of the investigation are ready and a different point of view prevails? Poland will never be recognized, it will cover itself with Ukraine, NATO will not give itself away all the more. And the USA...
In England, flight recorders are already deciphering the contents of black boxes.
There is nothing hidden that would not become clear over time.
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But not all of the West is so funny.
For example, Hollywood star Steven Seagal performs the anthem of Novorossiya with great inspiration from the stage.
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August 28, 2014
The mystery of the black box will never be revealed!!!
All the deadlines that were appointed and postponed again have passed, about black boxes - a minute of silence that threatens to never end. And everything is simple - I was right, as always. The culprits are the Netherlands and NATO in the first place, how do they admit it? Russia and the militias have nothing to do with it. Ukraine is a bargaining chip in someone else's game.
July 27, 2015
If the official public in Russia continues to sluggishly mumble something unintelligible in its defense, they say there is no need to hold a Boeing 777 tribunal, because it will be biased, then the matter will end with the inevitable defeat of Russia. Putin is the defeat of Russia, that's what everyone, everyone, everyone should have understood for a long time. It's a creeping defeat, but a defeat! Instead of taking an active position, our diplomats endlessly shake the air in an excuse mode - there is nothing to justify, we must finally take an offensive position. A Boeing tribunal is needed, but wide and open, and then it will become clear that the crime was planned back in the Netherlands. Ukraine, however, joined this conspiracy, to the best of its ability and desire to spoil Russia. And this is obvious. There is no need to be afraid of the tribunal. But Russia should initiate this tribunal. meanwhile, Putin continues to actively play his own game, supporting the Poroshenko regime.
July 27, 2015
Chronicle of a diving corpse car
Cumulative annual budget of the intelligence community USA, which includes 17 organizations, the largest of them the CIA, the State Department and the NSA, as well as their contractors, is about 100 billion. dollars. And this money needs to be mastered and show clear results to those who order music.
The true customers of the dastardly staging with the Boeing MH17
Today we have witnessed another global staging (like the events of 9/11), which is designed to push the world to global change to establish a “New World Order”, and, as a result of provocation, to eliminate the unyielding “competitor” in the form of Russia. As old Brzezinski used to say - Parkinson's friend - “A new world order under US hegemony is being created against Russia, at the expense of Russia and on the ruins of Russia”.
How this will be done and what other inhuman and blasphemous methods will be chosen by the dark power, we probably still have to see. Now I want to cite some reposts and my own thoughts, which testify to the obvious staging of this catastrophe for the further escalation of events, provocation of Russia and forcing mass worldwide hysteria against it. At a minimum, everything that you read below raises a lot of questions because it is sewn, as in the events of 9/11, with “white threads.
So the chronology of events
In March, a Malaysian Airlines plane was hijacked and allegedly disappeared without a trace. In fact, he was transferred to the American military base, Diego Garcia. Then, he was transferred to the Netherlands. On Thursday 17 July 2014 he flew to Malaysia.
The plane was flown by live pilots, and Ukrainian air traffic controllers were communicating with them. Inside the cabin, not living people, but corpses were loaded. A little earlier in the war zone, the so-called ATO, Ukrainian Armed Forces are distilling complexes Beech in quantity 27 things. On the day the plane passes, they show a lot of radar activity, tracking all the planes flying by.
Ukrainian dispatchers deliberately change the course of the aircraft to fly over the battle zone
Then the same controllers lower the flight altitude so that it can be reached by missiles of either Ukrainian aircraft or Ukrainian Buks. The action takes place 50 km from the Russian border. Drop the plane on the territory of the rebellious Donbass - good, on the territory of the Russian Federation - even better.
Plane shot down by Ukrainian military, only Ukro-Junta and USA interested in this performance.
Two Ukrainian fighter jets were spotted near the plane before it disappeared from radar. Are distributed in the sky three explosions, the plane falls apart in the air. Immediately before the explosion, they separate from it two points that later turned out to be paratroopers.
One of the corpses that fell from the sky in the fields of Donbass
Many corpses look very strange right at the moment of falling. Some of them, obviously not fresh, exude a putrid smell, as if they had lain warm for several days. Already someone who, and the militias know what fresh corpses look like. Others look like they're made of plastic bloodless And proformaline.
The fire just ended at the crash site
The fallen fragments of the aircraft are severely deformed and torn to pieces, a fire starts at the crash site, aviation fuel burns, and black smoke is emitted.
The rocket exploded right in front of the cockpit
The cockpit of the aircraft was slashed by striking elements that arrived from the outside and flooded from the inside with the human blood of the pilots, apparently not everyone was able to leave the plane before the attack, but most likely, part of the crew was left "for slaughter".
In the cabin of the aircraft were hung blood bags, after the fall, empty shells were visible.
Immediately after the plane crash, the Ukrainian artillery begins shelling the crash site to distort the inlet holes of the weapons, with multiple hits of shell fragments.
Transfer of the black boxes of the downed Boeing by the militias to the Netherlands side for an "objective" investigation
At the crash site of the aircraft, striking elements from the modern modification of Buk, which are not in service with Ukraine, are thrown.
During 4 days to the crash site does not leave neither the OSCE, nor international experts, nor pathologists. For four days the corpses and their fragments lay on the ground in the heat and in the rain, ripened and came into the form needed for the customer of this whole farce.
After the plane crash, in a plastic bag, in perfect condition at the crash site tossing new passports citizens of Malaysia, the Netherlands and other states who allegedly crashed Boeing passengers.
Passports are willingly shown to everyone, they are filmed by videographers of foreign companies.
Shining with novelty, holey passports of the "killed in the crash"
Passports with three through holes of cancellation - this is how passports are canceled in Holland, and with such passports they are not allowed out of the country.
Showed up and whole boarding passes. Whole - that is, literally whole, with the passenger spine not torn off. As you know, when boarding an airplane, the boarding pass is torn into two parts - the spine remains with the passenger, and the main part with the passenger's passport data remains with the boarding team on the ground, just in order to accurately take into account who exactly boarded the aircraft and in what quantity.
Moreover, the date was found in some whole boarding passes July 18- a day after departure. It's totally fantastic.
The plane allegedly contained 280 passengers and 15 crew members, and 239 corpses were found.
When journalists showed the passports in a spread, the data of the passengers were clearly visible there. Users of foreign forums were not too lazy and conducted their own mini-investigation, during which it was found that the people whose passports were shown by journalists “really exist” - there are their Facebook profiles. But - attention!- the profiles of these seemingly completely independent people were registered at the same time: April 21, 2013. (Already in April 2013, they were preparing a provocation, bastards!).
All these profiles are similar in that there is nothing on these pages other than the photos uploaded on the day of registration. Also, these users have no friends, no posts, no page likes - absolutely nothing! The pages are blank.
In any plane crash, the first thing we see on our TV screens is not the crash site, but relatives of the dead. So - during the first day, no relatives were shown, with the exception of a couple of some strange people - a hysterically crying woman (as it turned out later, the mother of the flight attendant of this aircraft) and some man. And only then (apparently, the organizers realized the blunder) began fitting extras from the "relatives of passengers" who were accommodated in the same hotel and who did not give any interviews.
On YouTube the day before the disaster a "record of separatist talks" about the downed Boeing was posted. Then the record was removed and a day later flooded again.
Then the "ripe" corpses are collected and sent by plane to the Netherlands.
The whole world has become an arena for an American show with a Boeing shot down over Ukraine
The meeting of the corpses of the untimely deceased "citizens of the country" is arranged with truly royal pomposity. Laid out in coffins, it is not known whose corpses, solemnly, minting a step, are carried out by the military. At the gangway of the plane stands, shedding tears, the royal couple and a large retinue.
However, for some reason no relatives of the deceased, it is understandable, the ubiquitous journalists will immediately unearth that none of the relatives of the citizens of a small country died. Except maybe the crew members.
Maybe "relatives" were not allowed to the airfield? There are none at the airport, where a small crowd is laying flowers...
By the way, all relatives, and they, as you remember, from different countries, unanimously and unanimously refused to give interviews, appear on TV screens and seek help from psychologists. Those. behaved quite differently from the usual behavior of the relatives of the victims.
Immediately after the disaster, European and American tabloids massively and hysterically began to unwind the news about the “downed by separatists” Boeing. News is served under chilling sauce.
A separatist removes a gold ring from a corpse's hand.
Numerous punctures and inconsistencies by no means confuse the Jewish owners of the Western and North American media. And actually, why bother, because the media belong to the Zionists, and they will print everything that the owners say.
As Nazi Propaganda Minister Joseph Goebbels liked to repeat, "A lie told a hundred times becomes the truth." This is the truth of the Jewish media and feed the whole world, including Russia.
And what is most surprising in this story is that the truth about the staging was not given in any of the major Russian national media. Basically, there are excuses that neither Russia nor the militias could bring down this damned Boeing.
The best so-called "Sicilian Defence" in chess is defense by attack. And in general, it is understandable why the Russian elite, so fused with the West, openly chickened out to tell the truth about this vile staging of their so-called partners from USA And European Union.
Who and why needed this large-scale and impudent staging? The political situation in the world on the eve of the crash of the Malaysian Boeing-777:
1. The creation of a US-EU single trade zone has actually been thwarted.
2. The EU countries refuse to introduce the so-called third package of sanctions and act as a united front with the United States against Russia.
3. German Chancellor Angela Merkel actually spoke out against the United States, calling for tripartite consultations with the participation of representatives of Novorossiya.
4. In Europe and the world, mass calls began to be heard to stop the bloodshed in the South-East of Ukraine.
5. In Ukraine itself, the process of awareness by the population of the coming catastrophe in the economy and housing and communal services has begun.
The situation on the fronts of the South-East of Ukraine:
1. The troops of the Kyiv authorities failed to break the ties between Donetsk and Lugansk.
2. The troops of the Kyiv authorities failed to release the garrisons in the Donetsk and Luhansk airports.
3. In the southern direction, three “cauldrons” were formed, into which about 5 thousand people from the armed forces of Ukraine, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the National Guard and the so-called “volunteer battalions” fell.
4. The death of the personnel of the troops of the Kyiv junta and the destruction of equipment has become widespread.
5. In the center and in the West of Ukraine, the protests of the population against the continuation of the war began to take on a dangerous scale for Kyiv.
Thus, instead of the expected victories and successes, USA, except for fomenting a conflict in Ukraine, have achieved nothing. And after the US plans began to crumble, there was an even more urgent need to further escalate the military conflict in order to involve Russia in it.
However, despite numerous provocations at the border, which resulted in, among other things, the death of Russian citizens, attempts to tighten sanctions, the desired result was not achieved. And then, just in time, on the territory controlled by the rebels of Novorossia, the Malaysian Boeing crashes ...
Dutch experts have collected from the wreckage what is left of the Boeing. But this did not add clarity to them. And it shouldn't have!
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